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Hi All,

I'm curious if anyone has looked into or has thoughts on Google Gemini Chat access with their workspace licenses. Google recently rolled Gemini Chat out to schools with the appropriate licenses for students 13 years and older. We currently don't have a student facing AI solution, but are planning to dive into that next year. In the meantime, with the Gemini Chat access that contains our data to our domain, I was wondering if anyone has thought about the potentially using Gemini with students under the age of 13 (Middle School). I've referenced the Terms of Service and can't find where it says you can't, but their site says you can't and when you click on the links associated, it mentions managing an account with parental consent. I'm thinking that if we had parental consent, under COPPA, this might be ok. We definitely don't want to go against the terms or service, but I'm not really finding clear language specifically about Gemini and with the Parental Consent clause in COPPA, it's hard to determine. Thoughts?

Thanks,

Justin

Justin - I am unclear about what is and isn't available via Gemini for education, as everything I have been seeing references a paid service and additional costs to existing licenses. The fees listed here - https://edu.google.com/intl/ALL_us/workspace-for-education/add-ons/gemini-for-google-workspace/ - range between $18-$27 per month per user.

Can you provide a link to what you are seeing for Google Gemini Chat? I would love to understand what they provide for free versus at a per-user cost. 

Hi All,

I'm curious if anyone has looked into or has thoughts on Google Gemini Chat access with their workspace licenses. Google recently rolled Gemini Chat out to schools with the appropriate licenses for students 13 years and older. We currently don't have a student facing AI solution, but are planning to dive into that next year. In the meantime, with the Gemini Chat access that contains our data to our domain, I was wondering if anyone has thought about the potentially using Gemini with students under the age of 13 (Middle School). I've referenced the Terms of Service and can't find where it says you can't, but their site says you can't and when you click on the links associated, it mentions managing an account with parental consent. I'm thinking that if we had parental consent, under COPPA, this might be ok. We definitely don't want to go against the terms or service, but I'm not really finding clear language specifically about Gemini and with the Parental Consent clause in COPPA, it's hard to determine. Thoughts?

Thanks,

Justin

Hi All,

I'm curious if anyone has looked into or has thoughts on Google Gemini Chat access with their workspace licenses. Google recently rolled Gemini Chat out to schools with the appropriate licenses for students 13 years and older. We currently don't have a student facing AI solution, but are planning to dive into that next year. In the meantime, with the Gemini Chat access that contains our data to our domain, I was wondering if anyone has thought about the potentially using Gemini with students under the age of 13 (Middle School). I've referenced the Terms of Service and can't find where it says you can't, but their site says you can't and when you click on the links associated, it mentions managing an account with parental consent. I'm thinking that if we had parental consent, under COPPA, this might be ok. We definitely don't want to go against the terms or service, but I'm not really finding clear language specifically about Gemini and with the Parental Consent clause in COPPA, it's hard to determine. Thoughts?

Thanks,

Justin

Did y'all see that Google is rolling most of the Gemini features into standard Workspaces for Business accounts? I'm very curious if/how this will trickle over to the Edu side for users 13+ or 18+. 

Hi All,

I'm curious if anyone has looked into or has thoughts on Google Gemini Chat access with their workspace licenses. Google recently rolled Gemini Chat out to schools with the appropriate licenses for students 13 years and older. We currently don't have a student facing AI solution, but are planning to dive into that next year. In the meantime, with the Gemini Chat access that contains our data to our domain, I was wondering if anyone has thought about the potentially using Gemini with students under the age of 13 (Middle School). I've referenced the Terms of Service and can't find where it says you can't, but their site says you can't and when you click on the links associated, it mentions managing an account with parental consent. I'm thinking that if we had parental consent, under COPPA, this might be ok. We definitely don't want to go against the terms or service, but I'm not really finding clear language specifically about Gemini and with the Parental Consent clause in COPPA, it's hard to determine. Thoughts?

Thanks,

Justin

Brent, thanks for the link from CDW that is a great resource to reference and you are correct. William, I'm referencing the no-fee Gemini Chat that is now included in the Workspace Education Plus. There are two additional add-ons you can pay for, Gemini Education and Gemini Education Plus. If you look at this page, it explains under the "What are the different terms of service between the Gemini app..." at the bottom of the page, that the Chat is available free of charge and that it is covered under the Google Terms of Service. So I would expect, just like the other services and additional apps that aren't part of the service, with parent consent, it would be allowable. Additionally, if you look at the "Are there any restrictions" question, the first link takes you to the age requirements for private accounts which allude to parental consent and if you follow the Google Workspace for Education Link, it too refers to COPPA and COPPA allows for access to apps and services with parental consent. Would this be any different from allowing YouTube to our students as an additional app that isn't under the Workspace agreement.

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Justin Whitford, TLIS
St. Mark's Episcopal School (Houston, TX)
Houston, TX
jwhitford@stmes.org

Original Message:
Sent: 01-17-2025 08:45 AM
From: Heather Ramsey
Subject: Google Gemini AI

Did y'all see that Google is rolling most of the Gemini features into standard Workspaces for Business accounts? I'm very curious if/how this will trickle over to the Edu side for users 13+ or 18+. 

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Heather Ramsey, Ed.D.
The Fletcher School
Charlotte, NC

Original Message:
Sent: 01-15-2025 05:00 PM
From: Justin Whitford
Subject: Google Gemini AI

Hi All,

I'm curious if anyone has looked into or has thoughts on Google Gemini Chat access with their workspace licenses. Google recently rolled Gemini Chat out to schools with the appropriate licenses for students 13 years and older. We currently don't have a student facing AI solution, but are planning to dive into that next year. In the meantime, with the Gemini Chat access that contains our data to our domain, I was wondering if anyone has thought about the potentially using Gemini with students under the age of 13 (Middle School). I've referenced the Terms of Service and can't find where it says you can't, but their site says you can't and when you click on the links associated, it mentions managing an account with parental consent. I'm thinking that if we had parental consent, under COPPA, this might be ok. We definitely don't want to go against the terms or service, but I'm not really finding clear language specifically about Gemini and with the Parental Consent clause in COPPA, it's hard to determine. Thoughts?

Thanks,

Justin

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Justin Whitford
St. Mark's Episcopal School (Dallas, TX)
Houston TX
jwhitford@stmes.org
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